Sher
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Post by Sher on Aug 31, 2020 19:58:08 GMT -5
No, I tried the Mooch before, but found no discernable benefit for tomatoes.
Thanks, Mike
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mike
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Post by mike on Aug 31, 2020 20:03:18 GMT -5
Come to think of it, I wondered if it affected the taste of the tomatoes. It was probably not the case, but it had me wondering.
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Post by joes on Aug 31, 2020 22:03:27 GMT -5
Mine too were very short when they started budding, about 4" tall. I wrote about my concerns in a thread here. I was also worried about how dense the foliage was and how it trapped moisture. I now think that is perfectly normal for the AG Heirloom Cherry Tomatoes. It took a long time for those buds to grow into mature tomatoes and during that time the plants grew taller. They were still shorter than I expected. When the first tomatoes started turning colors (about they were probably only about 6" - 8" tall. As the first tomatoes fully ripened, the plants grew another layer above the ripe fruits and grew more buds both in the new taller part and some again in the lower part. I have picked about 70 tomatoes so far. The shortest plant is still only about 7" tall and still full of first tomatoes, and has some buds. The tallest is about 15" tall, with the first tomatoes nearly all picked but a second group growing, and buds for a third.
I did a lot of trimming, I kept the pH above 5.5. I added AG nutrients according to the schedule but also added an extra cap whenever I added a lot (quart?) of water. No water changes because I was trying to increase the PPM.
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mike
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Post by mike on Sept 3, 2020 17:22:53 GMT -5
These are getting interesting.  |
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Sher
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Post by Sher on Sept 3, 2020 18:10:47 GMT -5
It's a tomato rain forest! With cute little yellow flowers in the canopy. 
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Post by mike on Sept 6, 2020 15:18:19 GMT -5
I found some browning leaves on top, today. I stepped back and realized the 60w light source was probably too close. Its's now 8" over the plants. I snipped out the brown leaves.  |
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Sher
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Post by Sher on Sept 6, 2020 16:38:31 GMT -5
My 45 watt leds burn almost everything I grow unless I keep the lights higher than recommended.
I haven't yet grown anything that requires true full sun. The micro dwarfs seem to be happy with less.
On the other hand, my 30 watt Bounty Basic has a minimum height of 8 inches, and I think it's way too high.
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mike
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Post by mike on Sept 13, 2020 7:32:50 GMT -5
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Sher
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Post by Sher on Sept 13, 2020 8:08:01 GMT -5
They are thriving!
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Post by Shawn on Sept 13, 2020 8:46:54 GMT -5
They sure are!
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mike
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Post by mike on Sept 13, 2020 8:57:49 GMT -5
I'm getting browning leaves on top. That really bugs me. It's not a light issue anymore.
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Sher
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Post by Sher on Sept 13, 2020 10:59:24 GMT -5
I'm getting browning leaves on top. That really bugs me. It's not a light issue anymore.
It might not be a light issue in your case, Mike. But I have burned my micro dwarf Red Window tomatoes in a Harvest with its 20 watt leds unless I keep it at least 4" over the plant. Any my Bounty with its 45 watt light has crisped them unless I keep the hood a good distance above the plants.
I also had to keep the hood high over my Sweet Heat peppers.
But, then, your peppers are doing great, so apparently that's not relative in your case. I was growing micro minis.
Maybe you could try raising the lights way above the tomatoes for 2 or 3 days and see what happens?
If it's not that, I hope you find an answer soon before the plants are too damaged.
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mike
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Post by mike on Sept 13, 2020 13:20:04 GMT -5
The light is already 8 inches over the top. I may need to dim them some.
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Post by Shawn on Sept 13, 2020 14:11:46 GMT -5
I dim mine when young. Then increase when older. At least that is what I did when grew tomatoes. Only because I had no idea how to get and if they would be ok from ultra to Bounty elite
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mike
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Post by mike on Sept 14, 2020 19:25:17 GMT -5
The tomatoes are starting to show up.  |
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Sher
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Post by Sher on Sept 14, 2020 19:46:39 GMT -5
Happy days!!!
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Post by Shawn on Sept 15, 2020 3:01:57 GMT -5
I see them  |
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mike
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2020 18:40:03 GMT -5
Added 20ml Nutes
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Post by mike on Sept 19, 2020 9:26:16 GMT -5
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Sher
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Post by Sher on Sept 19, 2020 10:33:09 GMT -5
My guess is that it is the variety. I have 3" micros starting to bloom in my DWC.
My Red Windowbox is loaded with tomatoes at 6".
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